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Maybe some nice genuine guys out there who know how to satisfy a woman who doesnt get it often!? Im a forty something, married woman hoping to find some safe extra fun on the side. I know, as you said in previous posts, that you are honest. I am the same way and I suspect if honest people started to lie, they would not be known as the well respected, loyal person they are, for much longer. What are you usually attracted to Michael? What about you, Young looking for the 1? Obviously nothing is written in stone, there are always exceptions.
Well I could have blossomed into a seasoned con artist as all my friends do trust me as I just refuse to lie. Some personal issues I might decline to discuss, but I would disclose that, yet keep my dignity. The benefits are obvious, I keep my integrity [important to me anyways] and my friends still trust me after all these years [also important to me].
So I am not a con artist, as I do not want to be. For Young for the 1: The initial SB I will contact will be local ones, partly as it is safer and of course easier. IF they do not work out, I will move further afield. Then my plan is to visit them if possible. In that case I think most people would already know if they are going to, or willing to, sleep with that person especially in the gay community where things seem to move quicker.
As for the chemistry…we are all neophytes in this game called life! I do not want to be in constant competition with an ever changing cast of bar stars lol. If drinking is involved, I would rather it be at home or in a lounge where we can passionately debate argue? Haha…yes, wet indeed…another reason I stay away from partyers. I found it all quite entertaining of course.
The number of those who have lied to me is very high, and unfortunately for me, the number of those who have done it successfully is very low. I think being able to see through people actually puts one at a disadvantage. Ignorance is bliss right? So have you blossomed into a seasoned con artist? There have been a couple, that after a few emails, we both pulled back…if someone is disinterested in me I am generally also disinterested in them. I tend to mirror the personalities around me so if someone is quiet or anxious, they make me feel anxious and more introverted.
There was only one who I talked with quite extensively who surprised me when he disappeared. It completely baffled me and I have given up trying to understand it. How short was the email? Was there anything else to it aside from what you wrote here? If you genuinely want to get to know him you should show it in your email. Ask questions you might have and let him get to know you as well. Are there any other gay lurkers that would care to share any success or failure they have had in their search?
I think the other aspect of honesty that sets people back is that dishonesty is pronounced in the gay community. Gay men learn to lie very, very effectively to keep their closet when they are young. As a result many of them grow up thinking that is how you have to be, to be gay. Just think about how many gay men you met who were really good at lying to you! Is it a big number?? For Sisyphus, yes, IF I were to make any such offer, I would have wanted to chat a lot on the phone, not to mention some emails etc, basically to the level of at least some of the framework for any arrangement — which ensures we are compatible on things like expectations etc.
I was rather brief on my last blog entry — always a tricky thing to judge. My own take is that I think the personal compatibility is going to be the toughest, and that really is chemistry. I suspect as a neophyte that it is different from say online dating, but there are some overlaps. I also like intelligence, I need a conversation! Plus the less drama the better.
To some extent students or someone with a life that is going somewhere appeals the most to me. I would be curious to hear from both of you on your take on the chemistry side — Young for the 1, that could be the silent treatment you got — then again, you are literate, which might put some SD off, but I would recommend you stay literate!
The comments from both of you are insightful and useful, which I hope will bring me some luck, if not success when I have the time to approach a SB or two. Good luck for both of you guys. Micheal — Your offer is kind of what I would hope for if I was going to come visit. I seem not to go much further than an email or two. And normally the emails are like I think we are a match, we should talk more and arrange something, but then all the sudden they go quite after I reply with a positive but slightly hesitant response.
Young Looking for the 1: As far as sex on the first date, I never say never, but it would be a rare thing. I am always safe regardless. I also have no idea how one might broach the subject of an arrangement. I know exactly what you mean as far as the honesty thing. I am very honest, especially in my writing and it is surprising, if not off-putting, to some people. As far as the hooking up issue, if I liked the person I was with, it would be something I want to do, and therefore would not feel like an obligation in any way.
I think you are spot on in your thoughts on the SB community. In some ways, this site is simply a tool to expand my dating pool with a potential for other benefits. Perhaps, instead of dinner, there might be a more suitable activity to break the ice, like taking a walk, or doing something unique for that city if the person has never been there before. Have you had any luck yet? My original thots for long distance SB would be either fly to meet them now my favourite — but with my schedule difficult or bring them to my city.
Basically my plan would have been a lot more generous than what you were offered, ie I would book them a hotel in my city for the duration which I viewed as an easy escape for either of us. I intended and still intend to pay both such a hotel and the flight.
Seems only fair to me, but I have always done my own thing, and I am so honest most people view it as surprising. And generally I would set the first date as dinner only, just to meet, greet and develop an in person rapport, so any the following days is avoidable for either party. As for hooking up, yes I think there is a different perspective in the gay community, which is why I like this separate blog. In negotiating the visit — to either city, I would include a blunt request for a hookup, but I would also offer some spoiling in return.
But I think being very honest and including some escape routes for both sides, I would be taken seriously. Am not sure how much SB have viewed other SB profiles, but there are some mighty different expectations that way. I think some of the SD on this site view all the SB as being in dire financial situations, which I think is very inaccurate. Many SB seem to be after some mentoring and a boost so to speak, but could continue without it if nothing comes of this site.
In other words you could pass on any SD you viewed as a jerk or worse. Then again if a SD or SB for that matter! The only caveat, make sure you explain yourself well via email or over the phone, am often amazed how badly some people do that! Ive been gone for a bit … SisyphusSB I definitely agree on the whole separate gay blog … but this will kind of due for now.
Mike — Ive met one and almost met another. Getting back to the distance, its really a interesting thing, I felt obliged to stay with the one I didnt meet because he was saying Id get my own room and stuff, but he flaked and I had to figure stuff out from there. It turned into a wonderful weekend for me so its all good, but it makes me nervous for going to meet an SD in a city far away. Im almost always not looking to have sex after saying hello even after a conversation … so planning on staying under the same roof doesnt appeal to me too much.
This was a bad experience in terms of trying to meet the SD… but lesson learned. The one I met was really nice and everything went well, it was all good, we talk at times still but we live far away from eachother and its always hard to tell whether I should commit or not. We didnt talk about any arrangements and any time I mentioned coming to visit it normally meant me paying to come visit and him paying for dinner … Id rather be the one paying for dinner if the other one had to pay for a flight, but thats just me.
Talking about the arrangement is hard, I never know how to go about it … Im probably different from the both of you in that Im not opposed to finding someone serious on here ….
What do you think is the best way to bring up an arrangement on here? Specially since hookups in the gay world kind of happen everywhere you turn ….
Just one or two boulders…no more than anyone else I am sure. My union has assured me they will never grow in size and I will receive an excellent pension once eternity ends. As for the naughty…maybe just a little…I suppose it depends on who you ask. Yep, I saw your posts. I agree with the no major problems aspect…for any relationship. No minor problems would be pretty great too but I think that may be asking too much.
A friendly affair sounds about right lol, you should coin that term. Otherwise things would become stale quite quickly. SA really needs to put together an official gay blog. Does anyone else have anything to add? I wonder, are you busy pushing boulders up big hills? Have you done anything really naughty lately????? You may have seen my post in Sugarpendence, but I would prefer an independent SB. Basically I do not want to babysit anyone. Am happy with the idea of mentoring if my skills and knowledge are transferable to the SB.
In a sense I am seeking an affair, that is still warm and friendly, without it being thought of as likely to become permanent. Right Now, with benefits. Probably will approach the SB in my neck of the woods first, mostly for convenience. Must admit I am leery of the whole thing, but hey, I try things. I can be bold. A big one for me is personality, there would have to be some chemistry of at least casual friendship.
If he has to think of England during sex, I would not be interested in him. Of course, I am not expecting a real relationship from here, friends, or friends with benefits are ok too until I find something more serious. I have yet to physically meet any SDs. They are few and far between north of the border. I have talked extensively with 3 all from the US.
One has disappeared, the other 2 have become friends with whom I exchange emails on a regular basis. In my experience, people tend to prefer convenience and are not inclined to do the long distance thing. To Michael, what are you looking for in a SB? I did not really address part of your question.
For an email, I would expect some explanation of what you are after. It is surprising how divergent SB are and what they expect here on SA. I am not after a life story in an initial email, but perhaps goals and if applicable why my profile caught your eye. I have met two SB socially who have ads on this site, but was not comfortable bringing up the fact I recognized them, partly it is a delicate topic in a public area to raise and also I am very busy with work.
One SB turned out to be pretty far out there in wild, which is not my scene — I am far too boring for him — er that is being diplomatic…. For both you and Sisyphus, how has your experience been in meeting SD? Met any, had any problems or successes? The answer, really, is it all depends. The rare time I see someone I want to send a message too, I more often than not get a response, even if it is a rejection. There are many reasons, partly as I am insanely busy with several jobs at once altho I think I can solve that by the end of summer!
I do try to review the SA site regularly tho, with a major goal of watching. It has been revealing. In my case I will be looking for honesty in a SB as it is probably difficult to make any arrangement based on dishonesty — remember I am a newbie too. I am an introvert, so if a SB is seeking a heavy social life, I think I would be rather a ball and chain from his perspective, so I would probably want someone compatible in that sense. I think it will at times be similar to online dating, in wanting to get along, as no amount of spoiling will change it if you are not comfortable with me.
On the other hand since I am seeking a nsa sort of arrangement friends with benefits — real benefits in my case! What do you look for in an email from an SB? Will this ever be updated? I am willing to bet there is a very large pent-up demand in the LGBT community for articles to comment on….
No offense to them, but would like to here from my side of the fence. How would you want to meet a potential SD who lives far from you? Would you want him to visit you first or, what would encourage you to hop on a plane to fly to his city assuming the SD pays your airfare?
Comments and thoughts are welcome. I was wondering if any sugar babies try to get free tickets to the party?? I sent the email requesting for one…how long do I have to wait …anyone? I would love to find a man like that! Thats sorta what i have been looking for, but i havent been able to find a sd like that. And yael, ill be your sb! Can you change it? Yes, it will still take you to the main SA pages when you register… the gay page is not a new site, but it does give gay sugar daddies, sugar mamas and sugar babies looking for sugar on the web a clear signal that they are welcome on SA!
When you register, whichever settings you choose i. It goes to the the SA landing page, the only difference is the photos. If you register with it, it brings you back to the hetero site. Does that make sense? Stephan- okay so then where would you find them?? Do you put up a flag? Wave wildly in a crowd?? Check in closets with a flashlight???
I mean, what do you do??? I am so wishing you all the best. Rich Closeted Gay Men: This is so great! Hopefully we can get to hear from some new people!! Im glad that sa is revolutionizing this makes me proud! We need to find something to bring them out of their shells!! Leave a Reply Click here to cancel reply. 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